{"id":170,"date":"2016-08-07T03:49:15","date_gmt":"2016-08-07T02:49:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/?p=170"},"modified":"2021-05-23T18:14:27","modified_gmt":"2021-05-23T17:14:27","slug":"comparatif_calibre_ammo_8-mm_1892_765browning_32acp","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/08\/07\/comparatif_calibre_ammo_8-mm_1892_765browning_32acp\/","title":{"rendered":"Comparatif : le calibre 8 mm 1892 \/ 7,65 Browning"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Le pr\u00e9sent article est une continuit\u00e9 logique de l&#8217;article pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent concernant le revolver r\u00e9glementaire Fran\u00e7ais mle 1892. Vous pourrez trouver le premier article ici : <a href=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/07\/25\/revolver-mas-mle-1892-evolution-de-la-conception-armuriere\/\">Revolver MAS mle 1892, r\u00e9alisation armuri\u00e8re et \u00e9volution du contexte.<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Cet article tire sa source d&#8217;une rumeur (pas enti\u00e8rement fausse)\u00a0 qui consiste \u00e0 dire que la munitions de calibre 8 mm utilis\u00e9e par le revolver mle 1892 est trop faible. Le d\u00e9classement de cette arme serait d\u00fb au calibre employ\u00e9. Un autre \u00e9l\u00e9ment d\u00e9clenchant la r\u00e9daction de cet article est la d\u00e9couverte d&#8217;un comparatif entre les munitions d&#8217;arme de poing utilis\u00e9es par la France pendant la grande guerre (Le document est reproduit ci- dessous).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Il sera d\u00e9taill\u00e9 dans cet article des donn\u00e9es balistiques concernant les calibres 8 mm 1892 (8 mm Lebel) et 7,65 Browning (32 acp). Je tirerai du rapprochement de ces donn\u00e9es mes conclusions sur le d\u00e9classement du revolver MAS mle 1892.<\/p>\n<h2><strong>La cartouche fran\u00e7aise de 8 mm 1892<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Pour m&#8217;aider dans ma r\u00e9flexion, je vais me servir d&#8217;un tableau provenant d&#8217;un catalogue Fiocchi qui est tr\u00e8s int\u00e9ressant \u00e0 plus d&#8217;un titre. Le voici :<\/p>\n<div id='gallery-1' class='gallery galleryid-170 gallery-columns-1 gallery-size-large'><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/08\/07\/comparatif_calibre_ammo_8-mm_1892_765browning_32acp\/catalogue-fiocchi0013\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"905\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0013-724x1024.jpg\" class=\"attachment-large size-large\" alt=\"Catalogue Fiocchi\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-191\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0013-724x1024.jpg 724w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0013-300x424.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0013-212x300.jpg 212w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0013-768x1086.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0013.jpg 1653w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-191'>\n\t\t\t\tCatalogue Fiocchi.\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><br style=\"clear: both\" \/>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Selon moi, ce tableau est tr\u00e8s utile car il donne pour un m\u00eame encartoucheur moderne des \u00e9l\u00e9ments balistiques de plusieurs calibres d&#8217;\u00e9poque. Il est donc tr\u00e8s facile de comparer et de d\u00e9battre autour des choix faits par les divers \u00e9tat-majors et gouvernements d&#8217;alors. Tout en ayant en t\u00eate que nous ne parlons pas de munition d&#8217;\u00e9poque mais de reproduction respectant tout ou partie des caract\u00e9ristiques d&#8217;origines.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Les donn\u00e9es fournies par le fabricant Italien Fiocchi (voir le tableau ci dessus) indique que pour un poids de balle de 7,2 grammes, soit 111 grains, et une vitesse \u00e0 la bouche de 260 m\/s. L&#8217;\u00e9nergie de l&#8217;ogive \u00e0 la bouche est de\u00a0 245 joules.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">En comparant l&#8217;\u00e9nergie \u00e0 la bouche de plusieurs calibres r\u00e9glementaires, on s&#8217;aper\u00e7oit que le 8 mm 1892 est une des plus faible de l&#8217;\u00e9poque.\u00a0 La raison est due \u00e0 la vitesse du projectile qui est faible. La 8 mm Steyr a une \u00e9nergie bien sup\u00e9rieure avec un poids de balle tr\u00e8s proche : 7,3 grammes, soit 113 grains, et une vitesse \u00e0 la bouche de 330 m\/s. L&#8217;\u00e9nergie de l&#8217;ogive \u00e0 la bouche est de 395 joules. La pression maximale moyenne d&#8217;une cartouche en 8 mm Steyr est : 2300 bar (CIP). La pression moyenne d&#8217;\u00e9preuve d&#8217;une cartouche en 8 mm Steyr est : 2990 bar (CIP). Ces m\u00eames donn\u00e9es pour la 8 mm 1892 sont : 1200 et 1560.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Un des sommets est atteint par la cartouche de 7,63 Mauser, qui, en propulsant une ogive de 88 grains \u00e0 440 m\/s \u00e0 une \u00e9nergie de 550 joules (tr\u00e8s proche de la cartouche de 9 x 19 : environ 600 joules). La pression maximale moyenne d&#8217;une cartouche en 7,63 Mauser est : 2600 bar (CIP). La pression moyenne d&#8217;\u00e9preuve d&#8217;une cartouche en 7,63 Mauser est : 3380 bar (CIP).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Dans leur livre consacr\u00e9 aux pistolets Star et Ruby, les auteurs produisent une table balistique des munitions Fran\u00e7aises de la grande guerre et comparent ainsi le 8 mm 1892 et le 7,65 mm Browning. L\u2019\u00e9nergie des ogives est identique et est exprim\u00e9e en kgm : 19 kgm, soit : 186 joules. Encore moins que le chiffre annonc\u00e9 par Fiocchi dans son catalogue.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong>L&#8217;\u00e9nergie est la m\u00eame pour une 7,65 Browning et pour une 8 mm 1892. Comment peut on dire que la faiblesse de la munition 8 mm 1892 a d\u00e9class\u00e9 le revolver 1892 alors que sa rempla\u00e7ante transmet la m\u00eame \u00e9nergie. Est ce vraiment le calibre seul qui a particip\u00e9 au d\u00e9classement de l&#8217;arme ?<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<div id='gallery-2' class='gallery galleryid-170 gallery-columns-2 gallery-size-medium'><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/08\/07\/comparatif_calibre_ammo_8-mm_1892_765browning_32acp\/document-2\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"209\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document-209x300.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"STAR and RUBY book\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-2-198\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document-209x300.jpg 209w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document-300x430.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document-768x1102.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document-714x1024.jpg 714w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document.jpg 1712w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 209px) 100vw, 209px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-2-198'>\n\t\t\t\tLa couverture du livre : Star et Ruby. \n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/08\/07\/comparatif_calibre_ammo_8-mm_1892_765browning_32acp\/document0038\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"221\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document0038-300x221.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"STAR and RUBY book\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-2-199\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document0038-300x221.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document0038-768x566.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document0038-1024x755.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-2-199'>\n\t\t\t\tDonn\u00e9es des munitions.\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><br style=\"clear: both\" \/>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n<h2><strong>Les caract\u00e9ristiques de la 8 mm 1892 :<\/strong><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Diam\u00e8tre maxi de la balle (CIP) : 8,28 mm ;<\/li>\n<li>Diam\u00e8tre dans le creux des rayures (CIP) : 8,30 mm ;<\/li>\n<li>Diam\u00e8tre sur le haut des rayures (CIP) : 8 mm ;<\/li>\n<li>Pas des rayures (CIP) : 240 mm ;<\/li>\n<li>Longueur maxi de l&#8217;\u00e9tui\u00a0(CIP) : 27,4 mm ;<\/li>\n<li>Longueur de la cartouche\u00a0(CIP) : 37 mm ;<\/li>\n<li>Masse de la balle (Fiocchi) : 7,2 g ;<\/li>\n<li>Masse de la balle (Livre : Star et Ruby) : 7,85 g ;<\/li>\n<li>Vitesse initiale (Fiocchi): 260 m\/s ;<\/li>\n<li>Vitesse initiale (Livre : Star et Ruby): 220 m\/s ;<\/li>\n<li>\u00c9nergie initiale (Fiocchi): 245 Joules environ ;<\/li>\n<li>\u00c9nergie initiale (Livre : Star et Ruby): 186 Joules environ ;<\/li>\n<li>Pression max moyenne (CIP) : 1200 bar ;<\/li>\n<li>Pression d&#8217;\u00e9preuve (CIP) : 1560 bar.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div id='gallery-3' class='gallery galleryid-170 gallery-columns-2 gallery-size-medium'><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/07\/25\/revolver-mas-mle-1892-evolution-de-la-conception-armuriere\/img_0551\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/IMG_0551-300x225.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"La cartouche de 8mm 92.\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-3-116\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/IMG_0551-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/IMG_0551-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/IMG_0551-1024x768.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-3-116'>\n\t\t\t\tLa cartouche de 8mm 92.\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/07\/25\/revolver-mas-mle-1892-evolution-de-la-conception-armuriere\/img_0545\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/IMG_0545-300x225.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"Les composants d&#039;une cartouche de 8 mm 92.\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-3-119\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/IMG_0545-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/IMG_0545-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/IMG_0545-1024x768.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-3-119'>\n\t\t\t\tLes composants d&#8217;une cartouche de 8 mm 92.\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><br style=\"clear: both\" \/><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/07\/25\/revolver-mas-mle-1892-evolution-de-la-conception-armuriere\/img_0549\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/IMG_0549-300x225.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"Le culot d&#039;une cartouche de 8 mm 92.\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-3-117\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/IMG_0549-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/IMG_0549-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/IMG_0549-1024x768.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-3-117'>\n\t\t\t\tLe culot d&#8217;une cartouche de 8 mm 92.\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/08\/07\/comparatif_calibre_ammo_8-mm_1892_765browning_32acp\/catalogue-fiocchi0014\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"212\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0014-212x300.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"Catalogue Fiocchi.\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-3-192\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0014-212x300.jpg 212w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0014-300x424.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0014-768x1086.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0014-724x1024.jpg 724w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0014.jpg 1653w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 212px) 100vw, 212px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-3-192'>\n\t\t\t\tCatalogue Fiocchi.\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><br style=\"clear: both\" \/>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">La cartouche de 8 mm mle 1892 est une munition \u00e0 bourrelet donc utilisable essentiellement en revolver.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">C&#8217;est huit ans apr\u00e8s l&#8217;adoption du revolver MAS mle 1892 et de sa cartouche de 8 mm qu&#8217;apparaissait sur le march\u00e9 le pistolet Browning 1900 et sa cartouche de 7,65 Browning. Il va d\u00e9couler de cette nouveaut\u00e9 toute une s\u00e9rie de pistolets de conception simple et au pouvoir d\u2019arr\u00eat similaire.<\/p>\n<h2><strong>La cartouche de 7,65 browning \/ 32 acp<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Introduite en 1899 par la FN pour \u00eatre utilis\u00e9e dans son pistolet automatique mle 1900, la cartouche de 7,65 Browning va bousculer le march\u00e9 de l&#8217;arme de poing. Cette cartouche de faible pression va permettre la fabrication de pistolet automatique fiable et simple car sans syst\u00e8me de verrouillage. L&#8217;absence de ce type de dispositif diminue de fa\u00e7on importante le nombre de pi\u00e8ce et la complexit\u00e9 de celles-ci. Les m\u00e9faits des anarchistes de cette p\u00e9riode ont contribu\u00e9, de part leur m\u00e9diatisation, \u00e0 la propagation de ces armes de poing d&#8217;un nouveau genre. L&#8217;engouement est rapide, c&#8217;est un succ\u00e8s populaire.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Pour \u00e9tudier cette cartouche, je m&#8217;aiderais d&#8217;une autre page du m\u00eame catalogue Fiocchi. La voici :<\/p>\n<div id='gallery-4' class='gallery galleryid-170 gallery-columns-1 gallery-size-large'><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/08\/07\/comparatif_calibre_ammo_8-mm_1892_765browning_32acp\/catalogue-fiocchi0011\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"905\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0011-724x1024.jpg\" class=\"attachment-large size-large\" alt=\"Catalogue FIOCCHI\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-4-193\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0011-724x1024.jpg 724w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0011-300x424.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0011-212x300.jpg 212w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0011-768x1086.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0011.jpg 1653w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-4-193'>\n\t\t\t\tCatalogue FIOCCHI\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><br style=\"clear: both\" \/>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">On retrouvera plusieurs r\u00e9f\u00e9rences de cartouche de calibre 7,65 Browning sur cette page de catalogue. Selon le type d&#8217;ogive et la vitesse de celle ci l&#8217;\u00e9nergie indiqu\u00e9e est de 175 \u00e0 280\u00a0 joules. Cette derni\u00e8re valeur est obtenue par l&#8217;emploi d&#8217;une ogive pointe creuse \u00e0 grande vitesse.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Le tableau cit\u00e9 ci-dessus du livre Star et ruby donne les \u00e9l\u00e9ments suivants : poids de balle : 4,85 grammes, vitesse de la balle : 270 m\/s, \u00e9nergie du projectile : 186 joules.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Diam\u00e8tre maxi de la balle (CIP) : 7,85 mm ;<\/li>\n<li>Diam\u00e8tre dans le creux des rayures (CIP) : 7,83 mm ;<\/li>\n<li>Diam\u00e8tre sur le haut des rayures (CIP) : 7,63 mm ;<\/li>\n<li>Pas des rayures (CIP) : 250 mm ;<\/li>\n<li>Longueur maxi de l&#8217;\u00e9tui\u00a0(CIP) : 17,2 mm ;<\/li>\n<li>Longueur de la cartouche\u00a0(CIP) : 25 mm ;<\/li>\n<li>Masse de la balle (livre : Star et Ruby) : 4,65 grammes ;<\/li>\n<li>Vitesse initiale (Livre : Star et Ruby) : 270 m\/s ;<\/li>\n<li>\u00c9nergie initiale (Livre : Star et Ruby) : 186 Joules ;<\/li>\n<li>Pression max moyenne (CIP) : 1800 bar ;<\/li>\n<li>Pression d&#8217;\u00e9preuve (CIP) : 2340 bar.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">L&#8217;\u00e9tui de calibre 7,65 mm Browning est dot\u00e9 d&#8217;un tr\u00e8s l\u00e9ger bourrelet. C&#8217;est gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 ce bourrelet que la munition sera employ\u00e9e parfois en revolver.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Puisque l&#8217;\u00e9nergie du projectile est la m\u00eame, tentons de trouver d&#8217;autres pistes de r\u00e9flexion relatives au d\u00e9classement du revolver MAS mle 1892. Vous pourrez voir ci-dessous quelques concurrents directes du revolver d&#8217;ordonnance MAS mle 1892.<\/p>\n<h2><strong>Le Browning 1900 :<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Tr\u00e8s grand succ\u00e8s commercial qui s&#8217;est vendu \u00e0\u00a0 plus de 700 000 exemplaires entre 1900 et 1912 soit environ 70 000 exemplaires fabriqu\u00e9s par an &#8230;rien que cela. On voit \u00e0 travers les volumes fabriqu\u00e9s que cette arme r\u00e9pond \u00e0 une attente du public et des administrations. Le pistolet devient simple, compacte, fiable&#8230; il se d\u00e9mocratise. La qualit\u00e9 de fabrication est aussi responsable de ce succ\u00e8s. L&#8217;opportunit\u00e9 m&#8217;a \u00e9t\u00e9 donn\u00e9e dans le pass\u00e9 d&#8217;avoir en main un Browning 1900, c&#8217;est une arme bien con\u00e7ue, bien r\u00e9alis\u00e9e et tr\u00e8s compacte. C&#8217;est une \u00e9vidence, il ne pouvait que rendre obsol\u00e8te le revolver. Cependant, il oblige l&#8217;utilisateur \u00e0 conserver une munition en chambre et un percuteur arm\u00e9.<\/p>\n<div id='gallery-5' class='gallery galleryid-170 gallery-columns-3 gallery-size-medium'><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/08\/07\/comparatif_calibre_ammo_8-mm_1892_765browning_32acp\/browning-1900-2\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"214\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1900-2-300x214.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"Browning 1900 2\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-5-174\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1900-2-300x214.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1900-2-768x549.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1900-2.jpg 896w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-5-174'>\n\t\t\t\tLe browning 1900.\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/08\/07\/comparatif_calibre_ammo_8-mm_1892_765browning_32acp\/browning-1900-3\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"241\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1900-3-300x241.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"Pistolet Browning 1900\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-5-176\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1900-3-300x241.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1900-3.jpg 381w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-5-176'>\n\t\t\t\tVue en coupe du Browning 1900.\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/08\/07\/comparatif_calibre_ammo_8-mm_1892_765browning_32acp\/browning-1900\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"201\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1900-300x201.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"Browning 1900\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-5-175\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1900-300x201.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1900-768x513.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1900.jpg 896w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-5-175'>\n\t\t\t\tLe browning 1900.\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><br style=\"clear: both\" \/>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n<ul>\n<li>masse de l&#8217;arme non charg\u00e9e : 625 g ;<\/li>\n<li>Longueur totale : 163 mm ;<\/li>\n<li>Longueur du canon\u00a0: 102 mm ;<\/li>\n<li>Capacit\u00e9 de l&#8217;arme : 7 cartouches.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2><strong>Le Browning 1910 :<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Le browning 1910 est le successeur du browning 1900. C&#8217;est une arme plus simple que son ain\u00e9. D&#8217;une conception sans reproche, il traversera les d\u00e9cennies sans avoir de modifications importantes. Un dispositif tr\u00e8s important sur cette arme est la p\u00e9dale de suret\u00e9 pr\u00e9sente sur le dos de la poign\u00e9e pistolet. Il sera fabriqu\u00e9 entre 1912 et 1975 \u00e0 plus de 704 000 exemplaires.<\/p>\n<div id='gallery-6' class='gallery galleryid-170 gallery-columns-3 gallery-size-medium'><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/08\/07\/comparatif_calibre_ammo_8-mm_1892_765browning_32acp\/browning-1910-1\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"203\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1910-1-300x203.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"Le pistolet Browning 1910\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-6-179\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1910-1-300x203.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1910-1.jpg 376w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-6-179'>\n\t\t\t\tLe Browning 1910.\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/08\/07\/comparatif_calibre_ammo_8-mm_1892_765browning_32acp\/browning-1910-2\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"206\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1910-2-300x206.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"Vue en coupe du Browning 1910.\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-6-180\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1910-2-300x206.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1910-2.jpg 750w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-6-180'>\n\t\t\t\tVue en coupe du Browning 1910. \n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/08\/07\/comparatif_calibre_ammo_8-mm_1892_765browning_32acp\/document-3\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"243\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document-3-300x243.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"Vue \u00e9clat\u00e9e du Browning 1910.\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-6-177\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document-3-300x243.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document-3-768x623.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document-3-1024x831.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-6-177'>\n\t\t\t\tVue \u00e9clat\u00e9e du Browning 1910.\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><br style=\"clear: both\" \/>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n<ul>\n<li>Masse de l&#8217;arme en <span class=\"nowrap\">7,65\u00a0mm<\/span>\u00a0: environ <span class=\"nowrap\">590\u00a0g<\/span> ;<\/li>\n<li>Longueur totale\u00a0: <span class=\"nowrap\">153\u00a0cm<\/span> ;<\/li>\n<li>Longueur du canon : <span class=\"nowrap\">88 mm<\/span> ;<\/li>\n<li>Capacit\u00e9 de l&#8217;arme en <span class=\"nowrap\">7,65\u00a0mm<\/span>\u00a0: 7 cartouches.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2><strong>Le FN\/COLT 1903 :<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>Fabriqu\u00e9 entre 1903 et 1945 \u00e0 plus de 572 000 exemplaires pour le Colt 1903 et 153 000 pour le FN 1903. Il servira aux industriels espagnol (entre autres) qui le simplifieront, il en r\u00e9sultera le pistolet Ruby.<\/p>\n<div id='gallery-7' class='gallery galleryid-170 gallery-columns-3 gallery-size-medium'><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/08\/07\/comparatif_calibre_ammo_8-mm_1892_765browning_32acp\/colt-1903-1\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"209\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Colt-1903-1-300x209.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"Le pistolet FN\/COLT 1903.\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-7-181\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Colt-1903-1-300x209.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Colt-1903-1.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-7-181'>\n\t\t\t\tLe FN\/COLT 1903.\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/08\/07\/comparatif_calibre_ammo_8-mm_1892_765browning_32acp\/colt-1903-2\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"275\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/COLT-1903-2-300x275.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"Le pistolet FN\/COLT 1903.\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-7-182\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/COLT-1903-2-300x275.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/COLT-1903-2-768x704.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/COLT-1903-2.jpg 770w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-7-182'>\n\t\t\t\tVue \u00e9clat\u00e9e du FN\/COLT 1903.\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/08\/07\/comparatif_calibre_ammo_8-mm_1892_765browning_32acp\/browning-1903\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"288\" height=\"170\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1903.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"Le pistolet FN\/COLT 1903.\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-7-184\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-7-184'>\n\t\t\t\tLe FN\/COLT 1903.\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><br style=\"clear: both\" \/>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n<ul>\n<li>Masse de l&#8217;arme en <span class=\"nowrap\">7,65\u00a0mm<\/span>\u00a0: environ <span class=\"nowrap\">590\u00a0g<\/span> ;<\/li>\n<li>Longueur totale\u00a0: <span class=\"nowrap\">153\u00a0cm<\/span> ;<\/li>\n<li>Longueur du canon : <span class=\"nowrap\">88 mm<\/span> ;<\/li>\n<li>Capacit\u00e9 de l&#8217;arme en <span class=\"nowrap\">7,65\u00a0mm<\/span>\u00a0: 7 cartouches.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2><strong>Les pistolets Star et Ruby :<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Ces armes seront au cot\u00e9 du revolver MAS mle 1892 dans les tranch\u00e9es de 1914 \u00e0 1918. Ils sont une simplification des armes de grands fournisseurs cit\u00e9es ci-dessus.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">La France s&#8217;\u00e9quipe de ces mat\u00e9riels pour compl\u00e9ter les dotations sans avoir \u00e0 surcharger l&#8217;emploi des manufactures nationales. Le nombre des pistolets Ruby vendus \u00e0 la France est de 900 000. Le nombre des pistolets Star vendus \u00e0 la France est de 24 000.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_204\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-204\" class=\"wp-image-204 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document0015-1-300x195.jpg\" alt=\"Pistolet Ruby\" width=\"300\" height=\"195\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document0015-1-300x195.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document0015-1-768x500.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document0015-1-1024x667.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document0015-1.jpg 1633w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-204\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Pistolet Ruby<\/p><\/div>\n<ul>\n<li>Masse de l&#8217;arme (pistolet Ruby) : environ 875<span class=\"nowrap\"> grammes<\/span> ;<\/li>\n<li>Longueur totale (pistolet Ruby) : <span class=\"nowrap\">157 mm<\/span> ;<\/li>\n<li>Longueur du canon (pistolet Ruby) : <span class=\"nowrap\">87 mm<\/span> ;<\/li>\n<li>Capacit\u00e9 de l&#8217;arme (pistolet Ruby) : de 7 \u00e0 9 cartouches.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2><strong>Conclusion<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">En rapprochant les \u00e9l\u00e9ments ci-dessus, on peut voir que d\u00e9s la sortie du pistolet Browning 1900 (seulement 8 ans apr\u00e8s l&#8217;adoption du revolver), cette arme automatique surclasse dans certains domaines l&#8217;arme r\u00e9glementaire Fran\u00e7aise du moment :<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>L&#8217;arme est plus l\u00e9g\u00e8re ;<\/li>\n<li>L&#8217;arme est tr\u00e8s compacte ;<\/li>\n<li>La fabrication est simple ;<\/li>\n<li>La qualit\u00e9 de fabrication est irr\u00e9prochable ;<\/li>\n<li>La maintenance est ais\u00e9e ;<\/li>\n<li>L&#8217;arme a un encombrement moindre ;<\/li>\n<li>La rapidit\u00e9 de chargement ;<\/li>\n<li>La capacit\u00e9 du chargeur est sup\u00e9rieure.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">On peut remarquer que la puissance de la munition 7,65 mm est tr\u00e8s proche (voir identique) de la cartouche de 8 mm du 1892. Malgr\u00e9 cette proximit\u00e9, le calibre 7,65 Browning va doter bon nombre de pays et de particuliers \u00e0 travers le monde provoquant la fabrication de millions d&#8217;armes.\u00a0 Ces armes \u00e9quiperont diverses forces gouvernementales jusque dans les ann\u00e9es 1970 voire 1980. On voit que le reproche de puissance s\u2019efface face aux avantages apport\u00e9s par le principe d&#8217;automaticit\u00e9. Il est alors possible de placer plusieurs munitions sur un m\u00eame objectif sans avoir peur de sa puissance ni du temps de rechargement de l&#8217;arme.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Le pistolet automatique de calibre 7,65 Browning a donc remplacer ou compl\u00e9ter dans certains c\u0153urs et pour certaines utilisations le revolver MAS mle 1892 ou d\u00e9riv\u00e9s. Cependant, bien que son chargement demande un d\u00e9lais plus important et que sa capacit\u00e9 soit inf\u00e9rieure, il ne faut pas oublier que le revolver reste maitre sur certaines portions de l&#8217;\u00e9ventail des utilisations. L&#8217;emploi, par les allemands, du revolver MAS mle 1892 sur le front de l&#8217;est lors de la seconde guerre mondiale le d\u00e9montre.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">L&#8217;\u00e9volution rapide du contexte industriel de la fin du 19\u00b0 si\u00e8cle et du d\u00e9but du 20\u00b0, l&#8217;\u00e9volution des poudres sans fum\u00e9e, l&#8217;\u00e9volution des aciers ont permis une s\u00e9rie de bonds en avant technologiques rendant obsol\u00e8tes certaines armes et techniques de guerre. Le combat au sabre est r\u00e9volu, l&#8217;\u00e9conomie des munitions s&#8217;estompe.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Une constante demande de modernit\u00e9 et d\u2019efficacit\u00e9 am\u00e8nera en haut des marches du podium une autre cartouche de diam\u00e8tre interm\u00e9diaire : le 9 mm luger (dont l&#8217;\u00e9nergie \u00e0 la bouche est proche des\u00a0 600 joules). Mais cela est une autre histoire.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Le pr\u00e9sent article est une continuit\u00e9 logique de l&#8217;article pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent concernant le revolver r\u00e9glementaire Fran\u00e7ais mle 1892. Vous pourrez trouver le premier article ici : Revolver MAS mle 1892, r\u00e9alisation armuri\u00e8re et \u00e9volution du contexte. 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