{"id":4341,"date":"2016-08-07T03:49:15","date_gmt":"2016-08-07T02:49:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/?p=4341"},"modified":"2019-05-05T00:50:23","modified_gmt":"2019-05-04T23:50:23","slug":"comparative-the-8-mm-1892-7-65-browning","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/08\/07\/comparative-the-8-mm-1892-7-65-browning\/","title":{"rendered":"Comparative: 8 mm 1892 \/ 7.65 Browning"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">The present article is a logical continuation of the previous article concerning the French Regulatory revolver mle 1892. You can find the first article here: <a href=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/07\/25\/mas-revolver-mle-1892-gunsmith-work-and-evolution-of-the-context\/\">Revolver MAS mle 1892, gunsmith work and evolution of the context.<\/a><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span title=\"\">This article is based on a rumor (not entirely false) that the 8mm ammunition used by the 1892 revolver is too weak.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">The decommissioning of this weapon would be due to the caliber employed.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">Another element triggering the writing of this article is the rediscovery of a comparison between the ammunition of handguns used by France during the Great War (The document is reproduced below).<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span title=\"\">This article will detail ballistics data for the 8 mm 1892 (8 mm Lebel) and 7,65 Browning (32 acp) calibres.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">I will draw from the comparison of these data my conclusions on the decommissioning of the MAS mle 1892 revolver.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<h2><strong><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">The 8 mm French cartridge 1892<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/h2>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">To help me in my thinking, I will use a table from a Fiocchi catalog that is very interesting in more ways than one.<\/span> <span title=\"\">Here it is :<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div id='gallery-1' class='gallery galleryid-4341 gallery-columns-1 gallery-size-medium'><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/08\/07\/comparatif_calibre_ammo_8-mm_1892_765browning_32acp\/catalogue-fiocchi0013\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"212\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0013-212x300.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"Catalogue Fiocchi\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-191\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0013-212x300.jpg 212w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0013-300x424.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0013-768x1086.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0013-724x1024.jpg 724w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0013.jpg 1653w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 212px) 100vw, 212px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-191'>\n\t\t\t\tCatalogue Fiocchi.\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><br style=\"clear: both\" \/>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">In my opinion, this table is very useful because it gives for the same modern encartoucheur ballistic elements of several calibres of time.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">It is therefore very easy to compare and debate around the choices made by the various staffs and governments of the time.<\/span> <span title=\"\">While bearing in mind that we do not speak of ammunition era but reproduction respecting all or part of the characteristics of origins.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">The data provided by the Italian manufacturer Fiocchi (see the table above) indicates that for a bullet weight of 7.2 grams or 111 grains and a muzzle velocity of 260 m \/ s.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The energy of the warhead to the mouth is 245 joules.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span title=\"\">By comparing the energy with the mouth of several regulatory calibres we realize that the 8 mm 1892 is one of the weakest of the time.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The reason is due to the speed of the projectile.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">The 8mm Steyr has a much higher energy with a very close ball weight: 7.3 grams or 113 grains and a mouth speed of 330 m \/ s.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The energy from the nose to the mouth is 395 joules.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The average maximum pressure of a cartridge in 8 mm Steyr is: 2300 bar (CIP).<\/span> <span title=\"\">The average test pressure of an 8 mm Steyr cartridge is: 2990 bar (CIP).<\/span> <span title=\"\">These same data for the 8 mm 1892 are: 1200 and 1560.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">One of the peaks is reached by the cartridge 7.63 Mauser, which, by propelling an 88-grain warhead at 440 m \/ s at an energy of 550 joules (very close to the 9 x 19 cartridge: about 600 joules).<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">The average maximum pressure of a cartridge in 7.63 Mauser is: 2600 bar (CIP).<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">The average test pressure of a 7.63 Mauser cartridge is 3380 bar (CIP).<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">In their book on Star and Ruby pistols, the authors produce a ballistic table of the French munitions of the Great War and thus compare the 8 mm 1892 and the 7.65 mm Browning.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">The energy of the warheads is identical and is expressed in kgm: 19 kgm, ie: 186 joules.<\/span> <span title=\"\">Even less than the figure announced by Fiocchi in its catalog.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><strong><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">The energy is the same for a 7.65 Browning and a 8 mm 1892. How can we say that the weakness of the ammunition 8 mm 1892 has downgraded the revolver while its replacement transmits the same energy.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">Is it really the caliber alone that participated in the decommissioning of the weapon ?<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<div id='gallery-2' class='gallery galleryid-4341 gallery-columns-2 gallery-size-medium'><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/08\/07\/comparatif_calibre_ammo_8-mm_1892_765browning_32acp\/document-2\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"209\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document-209x300.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"STAR and RUBY book\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-2-198\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document-209x300.jpg 209w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document-300x430.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document-768x1102.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document-714x1024.jpg 714w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document.jpg 1712w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 209px) 100vw, 209px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-2-198'>\n\t\t\t\tLa couverture du livre : Star et Ruby. \n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/08\/07\/comparatif_calibre_ammo_8-mm_1892_765browning_32acp\/document0038\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"221\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document0038-300x221.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"STAR and RUBY book\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-2-199\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document0038-300x221.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document0038-768x566.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document0038-1024x755.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-2-199'>\n\t\t\t\tDonn\u00e9es des munitions.\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><br style=\"clear: both\" \/>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Characteristics of the 8 mm 1892:<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Maximum bullet&#8217;s diameter (CIP): 8,28 mm ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Diameter in the hollow of the stripes (CIP): 8,30 mm ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Diameter on the top of the stripes (CIP): 8 mm ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Twist (CIP): 1\/240 mm ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Maximum case length (CIP): 27,4 mm ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Cartridge&#8217;s length (CIP): 37 mm ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Bullet&#8217;s mass (Fiocchi): 7,2 g ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Bullet&#8217;s mass (book : Star and Ruby): 7,85 g ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Initial speed (Fiocchi): 260 m \/ s ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Initial speed (book : Star and Ruby): 220 m \/ s ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Initial energy (Fiocchi): about 245 Joules ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Initial Energy (book: Star and Ruby): 186 Joules approx ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Average maximum pressure (CIP): 1200 bar ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Test pressure (CIP): 1560 bar.<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div id='gallery-3' class='gallery galleryid-4341 gallery-columns-2 gallery-size-medium'><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/07\/25\/revolver-mas-mle-1892-evolution-de-la-conception-armuriere\/img_0551\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/IMG_0551-300x225.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"La cartouche de 8mm 92.\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-3-116\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/IMG_0551-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/IMG_0551-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/IMG_0551-1024x768.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-3-116'>\n\t\t\t\tLa cartouche de 8mm 92.\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/07\/25\/revolver-mas-mle-1892-evolution-de-la-conception-armuriere\/img_0545\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/IMG_0545-300x225.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"Les composants d&#039;une cartouche de 8 mm 92.\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-3-119\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/IMG_0545-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/IMG_0545-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/IMG_0545-1024x768.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-3-119'>\n\t\t\t\tLes composants d&#8217;une cartouche de 8 mm 92.\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><br style=\"clear: both\" \/><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/07\/25\/revolver-mas-mle-1892-evolution-de-la-conception-armuriere\/img_0549\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/IMG_0549-300x225.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"Le culot d&#039;une cartouche de 8 mm 92.\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-3-117\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/IMG_0549-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/IMG_0549-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/IMG_0549-1024x768.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-3-117'>\n\t\t\t\tLe culot d&#8217;une cartouche de 8 mm 92.\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/08\/07\/comparatif_calibre_ammo_8-mm_1892_765browning_32acp\/catalogue-fiocchi0014\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"212\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0014-212x300.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"Catalogue Fiocchi.\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-3-192\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0014-212x300.jpg 212w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0014-300x424.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0014-768x1086.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0014-724x1024.jpg 724w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0014.jpg 1653w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 212px) 100vw, 212px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-3-192'>\n\t\t\t\tCatalogue Fiocchi.\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><br style=\"clear: both\" \/>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">The cartridge of 8 mm mle 1892 is a munition with bead therefore usable only in revolver.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">It was eight years after the adoption of the MAS mle 1892 revolver and its 8 mm cartridge that the Browning 1900 pistol and its 7.65 Browning cartridge appeared on the market.<\/span> <span title=\"\">It will flow from this novelty a whole series of pistols of simple design and similar power of arrest.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<h2><strong><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">The 7.65 browning \/ 32 acp cartridge<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/h2>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span title=\"\">Introduced in 1899 by the FN for use in its 1900 automatic pistol. The 7.65 Browning cartridge will shake up the market for handguns.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">This low pressure cartridge will allow the manufacture of automatic pistol reliable and simple because without locking system.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The absence of this type of device significantly reduces the number of parts and the complexity thereof.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The misdeeds of the anarchists of this period contributed, through their media coverage, to the spread of these new types of handguns.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The craze is fast, it&#8217;s a popular success.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">To study this cartridge, I would help you from another page of the same Fiocchi catalog.<\/span> <span title=\"\">There she is :<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id='gallery-4' class='gallery galleryid-4341 gallery-columns-1 gallery-size-medium'><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/08\/07\/comparatif_calibre_ammo_8-mm_1892_765browning_32acp\/catalogue-fiocchi0011\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"212\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0011-212x300.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"Catalogue FIOCCHI\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-4-193\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0011-212x300.jpg 212w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0011-300x424.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0011-768x1086.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0011-724x1024.jpg 724w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Catalogue-FIOCCHI0011.jpg 1653w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 212px) 100vw, 212px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-4-193'>\n\t\t\t\tCatalogue FIOCCHI\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><br style=\"clear: both\" \/>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">There are several 7.65 Browning cartridge references on this catalog page.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">Depending on the type of warhead and the speed of the latter, the indicated energy is 175 to 280 joules.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">This last value is obtained by the use of a hollow tip warhead at high speed.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">The table quoted above from the book Star and Ruby gives the following elements: ball weight: 4.85 grams, bullet speed: 270 m \/ s, projectile energy: 186 joules.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Max bullet diameter (CIP): 7.85 mm ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Diameter in the hollow of the stripes (CIP): 7.83 mm ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Diameter on the top of the stripes (CIP): 7.63 mm;\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Twist (CIP): 1\/250 mm ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Maximum case length (CIP): 17.2 mm;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Cartridge length (CIP): 25 mm ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Bullet&#8217;s weight (book : Star and Ruby): 4.65 grams ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Initial speed (book : Star and Ruby): 270 m \/ s ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Initial Energy (book: Star and Ruby) : 186 Joules ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Average maximum pressure (CIP): 1800 bar ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Test pressure (CIP): 2340 bar.<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">The 7.65mm Browning case has a very light bead.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">It is thanks to this bead that the ammunition will be used sometimes in revolver.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Since the energy of the projectile is the same, let&#8217;s try to find other lines of thought relating to the decommissioning of the MAS mle 1892 revolver. Below you will see some direct competitors of the MAS mle 1892 revolver.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<h2><strong>The Browning 1900 pistol :<\/strong><\/h2>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span title=\"\">Very big commercial success which sold more than 700 000 copies between 1900 and 1912 is about 70 000 manufactured copies a year &#8230; nothing but that.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">We can see through the manufactured volumes that this weapon meets an expectation of the public and administrations.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The gun becomes simple, compact, reliable &#8230; it is democratized.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The quality of manufacture is also responsible for this success.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The opportunity was given me in the past to have a Browning 1900 in hand, it is a well designed weapon, well done and very compact.<\/span> <span title=\"\">It is obvious that he could only make the revolver obsolete.<\/span> <span title=\"\">However, it requires the user to keep a room ammunition and an armed striker.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div id='gallery-5' class='gallery galleryid-4341 gallery-columns-3 gallery-size-medium'><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/08\/07\/comparatif_calibre_ammo_8-mm_1892_765browning_32acp\/browning-1900-2\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"214\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1900-2-300x214.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"Browning 1900 2\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-5-174\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1900-2-300x214.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1900-2-768x549.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1900-2.jpg 896w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-5-174'>\n\t\t\t\tLe browning 1900.\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/08\/07\/comparatif_calibre_ammo_8-mm_1892_765browning_32acp\/browning-1900-3\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"241\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1900-3-300x241.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"Pistolet Browning 1900\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-5-176\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1900-3-300x241.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1900-3.jpg 381w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-5-176'>\n\t\t\t\tVue en coupe du Browning 1900.\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/08\/07\/comparatif_calibre_ammo_8-mm_1892_765browning_32acp\/browning-1900\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"201\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1900-300x201.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"Browning 1900\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-5-175\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1900-300x201.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1900-768x513.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1900.jpg 896w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-5-175'>\n\t\t\t\tLe browning 1900.\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><br style=\"clear: both\" \/>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n<ul>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">mass of the unloaded weapon: 625 g ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Total length: 163 mm ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Length of the barrel: 102 mm ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Weapon capacity: 7 cartridges.<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2><strong>The Browning 1910 pistol :<\/strong><\/h2>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span title=\"\">The Browning 1910 is the successor of the Browning 1900. It is a simpler weapon than its elder.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">With a perfect design, it will go through the decades without any major changes.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">A very important feature on this weapon is the safety pedal on the back of the pistol grip.<\/span> <span title=\"\">It will be manufactured between 1912 and 1975 to more than 704,000 copies.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div id='gallery-6' class='gallery galleryid-4341 gallery-columns-3 gallery-size-medium'><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/08\/07\/comparatif_calibre_ammo_8-mm_1892_765browning_32acp\/browning-1910-1\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"203\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1910-1-300x203.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"Le pistolet Browning 1910\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-6-179\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1910-1-300x203.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1910-1.jpg 376w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-6-179'>\n\t\t\t\tLe Browning 1910.\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/08\/07\/comparatif_calibre_ammo_8-mm_1892_765browning_32acp\/browning-1910-2\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"206\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1910-2-300x206.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"Vue en coupe du Browning 1910.\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-6-180\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1910-2-300x206.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1910-2.jpg 750w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-6-180'>\n\t\t\t\tVue en coupe du Browning 1910. \n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/08\/07\/comparatif_calibre_ammo_8-mm_1892_765browning_32acp\/document-3\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"243\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document-3-300x243.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"Vue \u00e9clat\u00e9e du Browning 1910.\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-6-177\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document-3-300x243.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document-3-768x623.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document-3-1024x831.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-6-177'>\n\t\t\t\tVue \u00e9clat\u00e9e du Browning 1910.\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><br style=\"clear: both\" \/>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n<ul>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Mass of the weapon in 7.65 mm: approximately 590 g ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li>Total length : <span class=\"nowrap\">153\u00a0cm<\/span> ;<\/li>\n<li>Barel length : <span class=\"nowrap\">88 mm<\/span> ;<\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Capacity of the weapon in 7.65 mm: 7 cartridges.<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2><strong>The FN\/COLT 1903 pistol :<\/strong><\/h2>\n<div id='gallery-7' class='gallery galleryid-4341 gallery-columns-2 gallery-size-medium'><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/08\/07\/comparatif_calibre_ammo_8-mm_1892_765browning_32acp\/colt-1903-1\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"209\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Colt-1903-1-300x209.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"Le pistolet FN\/COLT 1903.\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-7-181\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Colt-1903-1-300x209.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Colt-1903-1.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-7-181'>\n\t\t\t\tLe FN\/COLT 1903.\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/08\/07\/comparatif_calibre_ammo_8-mm_1892_765browning_32acp\/colt-1903-2\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"275\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/COLT-1903-2-300x275.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"Le pistolet FN\/COLT 1903.\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-7-182\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/COLT-1903-2-300x275.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/COLT-1903-2-768x704.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/COLT-1903-2.jpg 770w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-7-182'>\n\t\t\t\tVue \u00e9clat\u00e9e du FN\/COLT 1903.\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><br style=\"clear: both\" \/><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/08\/07\/comparatif_calibre_ammo_8-mm_1892_765browning_32acp\/colt-1903-3\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"160\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Colt-1903-3-300x160.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"Le pistolet FN\/COLT 1903.\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-7-183\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Colt-1903-3-300x160.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Colt-1903-3.jpg 508w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-7-183'>\n\t\t\t\tLe FN\/COLT 1903.\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/08\/07\/comparatif_calibre_ammo_8-mm_1892_765browning_32acp\/browning-1903\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"288\" height=\"170\" src=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Browning-1903.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"Le pistolet FN\/COLT 1903.\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-7-184\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-7-184'>\n\t\t\t\tLe FN\/COLT 1903.\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><br style=\"clear: both\" \/>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n<ul>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Mass of the weapon in 7.65 mm: approximately 590 g ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li>Total length : <span class=\"nowrap\">153\u00a0cm<\/span> ;<\/li>\n<li>Barel length : <span class=\"nowrap\">88 mm<\/span> ;<\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Capacity of the weapon in 7.65 mm: 7 cartridges.<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2><strong>The Star et Ruby pistol<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">These weapons will be next to the MAS mle 1892 revolver in the trenches from 1914 to 1918. They are a simplification of the weapons of the major suppliers mentioned above.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">France is equipped with these materials to supplement endowments without having to overload the employment of national manufactures.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">The number of Ruby pistols sold in France is 900,000. The number of Star guns sold to France is 24,000.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-204 size-medium aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document0015-1-300x195.jpg\" alt=\"Pistolet Ruby\" width=\"300\" height=\"195\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document0015-1-300x195.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document0015-1-768x500.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document0015-1-1024x667.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/Document0015-1.jpg 1633w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Mass of the weapon (Ruby pistol): about 875 grams ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Total length (Ruby pistol): 157 mm ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Barrel length (Ruby pistol): 87 mm ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Weapon Capacity (Ruby pistol): 7 to 9 rounds.<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<div>\n<h2><strong>Conclusion<\/strong><\/h2>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">By comparing the above elements, we can see that as soon as the Browning 1900 pistol came out (only 8 years after the adoption of the revolver), this automatic weapon outclasses in some areas the French regulatory weapon of the moment:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Lighter weapon ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Very compact weapon ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Simple manufacturing ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Irreproachable manufacturing quality ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Easy maintenance ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Weapon of lesser size ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Speed of loading ;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Upper loader capacity.<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">It can be noticed that the power of the 7.65 mm ammunition is very close (see identical) to the 8 mm cartridge of 1892. Despite this proximity, the 7.65 Browning caliber will endow many countries and individuals through<\/span> <span title=\"\">the world causing the manufacture of millions of weapons.<\/span> <span title=\"\">These weapons will equip various government forces until the 1970s or even 1980s. We see that the reproach of power is erased from the advantages brought by the principle of automaticity.<\/span> <span title=\"\">It is then possible to place several ammunition on the same objective without fear of its power or the time of reloading the weapon.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span title=\"\">The 7.65 Browning automatic pistol has therefore replaced or supplemented in some hearts and for certain uses the MAS mle 1892 revolver or derivatives.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">However, although its loading requires a longer time and its capacity is lower, we must not forget that the revolver remains master over some portions of the range of uses.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The use by the Germans of the MAS mle 1892 revolver on the eastern front during the Second World War demonstrates this.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">The rapid evolution of the industrial context at the end of the 19th century and the beginning of the 20th century, the evolution of smokeless powder, steels have allowed a series of good technological advances rendering certain weapons and war techniques obsolete.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The saber fight is over.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The economy of cartridges too.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">A constant demand for modernity and efficiency will lead up the steps of the podium another cartridge of intermediate diameter: the 9 mm luger (whose energy to the mouth is close to 600 joules).<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">But that&#8217;s another story.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The present article is a logical continuation of the previous article concerning the French Regulatory revolver mle 1892. You can find the first article here: Revolver MAS mle 1892, gunsmith work and evolution of the context. 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