{"id":4472,"date":"2016-11-02T20:40:29","date_gmt":"2016-11-02T19:40:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/?p=4472"},"modified":"2019-05-05T05:06:40","modified_gmt":"2019-05-05T04:06:40","slug":"the-rifle-mle-1866-chassepot-2-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/index.php\/2016\/11\/02\/the-rifle-mle-1866-chassepot-2-2\/","title":{"rendered":"The rifle mle 1866 Chassepot 2\/2"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Through the retranscription of an article punctuated by an ounce of optimism published in 1869, we saw in the first section devoted to the rifle Chassepot to outline the beginnings of the adoption of the new regulatory weapon.<\/span> <span title=\"\">A weapon firing so much cartridge that the enemy would be quickly cut in pieces in case of conflict.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">What about in 1873?<\/span> <span title=\"\">Through the study of older texts, what can we deduce?<\/span> <span title=\"\">Is there a relationship with more contemporary facts?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<h2><strong><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">The rifle mle 1866 Chassepot<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/h2>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">The wish to have a small caliber rifle charging the breech was issued in June 1865 by the Emperor Napoleon III.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">That same year, the permanent commission of Versailles had chosen a rifle charging by the mouth.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The recent victories of Prussia require a more modern choice.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Under the influence of Switzerland, the tendency of the time tends towards the diminution of the caliber.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">We look for a weapon of caliber between 10 and 15 mm in order to obtain a more tense trajectory and to make it possible to shoot at great distances, which is not possible with a projectile of 17 to 18 mm.<\/span> <span title=\"\">One thus seeks to strongly impact, to see undo, the enemy before the combat with the white weapon.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-602 size-full aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Chassepot0001.jpg\" width=\"512\" height=\"841\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Chassepot0001.jpg 512w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Chassepot0001-300x493.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Chassepot0001-183x300.jpg 183w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 512px) 100vw, 512px\" \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span title=\"\">It is a period of strong technical evolutions, many choices exist.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">We make selection tests with a retrograde rifle but still strongly anchored in the minds: the shotgun.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The latter is ultimately a stallion of the old armament and an old way of making war.<\/span> <span title=\"\">On the other hand, no weapon with metal case is present on the ranks.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The commission is charged with deciding on three weapons: the Chassepot rifle, the Chassepot rifle modified by Mr Plumerel, a rifle charging by the mouth.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The Chassepot rifle was adopted.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">The creator of the 1866 rifle is the author of three patents: the rubber shutter, the latch mechanism derived from the Prussian Dreysse, the cartridge.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">The ballistic characteristics of the gun and the warhead: bullet length \/ caliber, bullet weight \/ powder charge, shape and inclination of the stripes \/ influence of the rotation of the projectile were defined according to the studies of various stakeholders and commissions<\/span> <span title=\"\">then applied on the Chassepot mechanism.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">February 14, 1866, an order of 1500 weapons is passed to the factory of Ch\u00e2tellerault.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">In June 1866, 400 rifles were received.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">they will be sent to the camp of Chalons to be experienced by the Imperial Guard (see first article on the Chassepot rifle).<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">July 03, 1866, creation of the manufactures of St Etienne and Puteaux.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The goal is to manufacture 150,000 weapons a year and 1,800 machine tools for manufacturing.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span title=\"\">The 1866 rifle is a resolutely modern weapon for its time.<\/span> <span title=\"\">Terribly well done and that required a major effort to the nation.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">Then comes the time of the first tests then the fire test.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The only criterion of the gun is not enough to predict the winner of future battles.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The idyllic setting described by the first article has it evolved?<\/span> <span title=\"\">What about the best weapon in Europe?<\/span> <span title=\"\">Are Mr. Chassepot&#8217;s patents adapted to a weapon of war?<\/span> <span title=\"\">or a stand gun?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span title=\"\">Spitting towards the face of the shooter (synonymous with lack of tightness) are the reasons for the delay in the adoption and spread of bolt loading weapons.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">Mr Chassepot uses a recent material for the time: a rubber washer to achieve this seal which in the process reduces the recoil of the weapon.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The room is deteriorating in various ways.<\/span> <span title=\"\">It cracks, it melts and closes the channel of the needle, it loses its elasticity.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The spitting increases in a growing way when in melting it loses its diameter.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The soldier has a spare room in his cabin.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The use of this material is a bold choice.<\/span> <span title=\"\">To date, very few weapons have used rubber for this function.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The Chassepot may be the only one.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span title=\"\">As seen above, the seal is more or less well done to the outside.<\/span> <span title=\"\">It is the same towards the interior.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The gases, the result of the burning of the powder, go wherever they do not encounter resistance.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">This is how they pass into the breech through the channel of the percussion needle.<\/span> <span title=\"\">This has the effect of soaking the percussion spring causing a weak percussion see the breakage of the spring.<\/span> <span title=\"\">In some cases, it is possible to arm the dog just by slamming the ground diaper.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The combustion gases also strongly foul the inside of the cylinder head.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">The fouling does not only affect the inside of the cylinder head but also the room.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">Debris and firing residues remain and prevent the introduction of the following ammunition.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">The diameter of the needle is 1.5 mm.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">A doubled diameter, 3 mm, would bring a solidity 4 times higher.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">The muscled closure of the breech may cause the percussion of a cartridge.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">This sudden closure exists due to the lack of inclined closure ramp on the receiver.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The presence of this machining helps the shooter to gradually push the ammunition into the chamber while locking the bolt.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The vast majority of modern lock weapons have this ramp, it brings unparalleled comfort.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">The polished white finish of the weapon, in addition to being very visible, requires significant maintenance under penalty of corrosion.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Despite the speech of Mr Thier, President of the Republic, of June 8, 1872:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">&#8220;In the opinion of the men of war, the Chassepot rifle was the best weapon in use in the armies&#8221; &#8220;The Chassepot rifle is recognized excellent except the cartridge, which all European countries seek to improve&#8221; &#8230;<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Although it is necessary to bear in mind the industrial context of the time as well as the speed with which the weapon was manufactured and distributed, it still seems that one can address some reproaches on the<\/span> <span title=\"\">design of the Chassepot rifle.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-604 size-large\" src=\"http:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Chassepot0002-1024x581.jpg\" width=\"604\" height=\"343\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Chassepot0002-1024x581.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Chassepot0002-300x170.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Chassepot0002-768x436.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Chassepot0002-600x340.jpg 600w, https:\/\/gunsmithdesigner.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Chassepot0002.jpg 1031w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 604px) 100vw, 604px\" \/><\/p>\n<h2><strong><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">The Chassepot Rifle Cartridge<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/h2>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">As said before, three principles compete at this time in the history of armament: the loading by the mouth, the cartridge with fuel pouch, the cartridge with metal case.<\/span> <span title=\"\">Although proposed by the commission of Versailles, the loading by the mouth is considered exceeded, swept away by the consequences of the battles of Sadowa.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span title=\"\">The fuel cell cartridge thus found itself in competition with the cartridge with metal case.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">Although some observers of the time give their preference for the latter which is said to be of better quality even from abroad.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The disadvantages of it have had a bigger forum.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The defects of the era of the metal cartridges are:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<div class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\">\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<div class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span title=\"\">The excess weight of the holster.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">The weight of the case add to that of the warhead decreases the number of cartridges that can carry the soldier;<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Chemical reactivity between the holster and the powder which may lead to the decomposition of the powder;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Delicate extraction;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Cases that are likely to split;<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Requires the use of extractor.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">A thin piece, so fragile, not easy to replace by the fighter on the battlefield;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">The cartridge can not be recharged or manufactured by the fighter;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">The tools required for mass production are considered too expensive;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">The dimensional differences of cases due to various manufacturers;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Lack of power of the ammunition;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Difficulty of chambering in case of shocks on the case;<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">The cost of manufacturing the case.<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">In 1866, no metal holsters were in competition with the Chassepot.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">In 1873, the choice between modernity (cartridge with metal case) and semi-modernity (cartridge with combustible case) is not made.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">Public finances, past military principles have made some people say that the paper cartridge remains the future.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The choice will be decided in 1874. This is probably the time needed to perfect the metal case and the time to overcome a certain resistance to changes.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<h2><strong><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">The standard cartouche of the Chassepot<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/h2>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">The characteristics of the regulatory cartridge are:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Powder charge: 5.25 grams;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Ball weight: 24.5 grams;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">A 25 mm long bale (should approach 33 mm for greater accuracy, 3 times the diameter);<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Diameter of the warhead: 11 mm.<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">According to the notice on cartridges for weapons of war and in particular for Chassepot rifle (1873), the 5 qualities of a weapon cartridge of war should be:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">1 The preservation of the cartridge;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">2 Regularity, promptness, security, accuracy of shooting;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">3 The strength of the cartridge;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">4 The ease of manufacture;<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">5 The economy over the cost price.<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">1 Cartridge conservation<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span title=\"\">We have a little trouble imagining a good and long conservation of paper ammunition loaded with black powder.<\/span> <span title=\"\">In addition, what conservation are we talking about?<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">those of the components before manufacture, conservation of the manufactured ammunition, conservation during the delivery, conservation in ammunition hold, conservation during the operational transports, conservation in the bags of the soldiers &#8230; Each of the manipulations quoted can be, if it is badly<\/span> <span title=\"\">carried out, a source of deterioration.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The ammunition with combustible case is fragile, they must be protected from the difficult atmospheric conditions &#8230; not easy in so much of war.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The Chassepot cartridge is not ideal in this area.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">2 Regularity<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span title=\"\">This quality comes from the homogeneity of a batch of cartridges.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">It therefore depends on a number of criteria such as conservation, regularity of components, manufacturing &#8230; to say that the parameters to master are important especially if part of the manufacturing is delegated to civilian workshops.<\/span> <span title=\"\">To this must be added the irregular deposits left by the firing residues and the paper case in the room that will distort the regularity.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">2 Readiness<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">The speed of the Chassepot shotgun is a real advantage compared to a weapon loading by the mouth and this especially as it allows a reload squatting or lying.<\/span> <span title=\"\">This speed is only possible if the chamber of the weapon is not too dirty or if the warhead has not detached from the holster in the sack of the soldier &#8230; among others.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">2 Security<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">It is a natural way that the Chassepot cartridge does not offer all the security guarantees.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The reason has already been mentioned above: there can be no security when firing an ammunition without a case if the mechanism to load the bolt is not waterproof.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">2 The accuracy of the shot<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Some criteria of the accuracy of the shot are the centering of the ball on the axis of the barrel, the regularity of the speed of the bullet, the wear and the cleanliness of the barrel, the regularity of the weight and the diameter of the ogive.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span title=\"\">Matching the axis of the bullet with the axis of the barrel while the chamber is fouled may seem complicated.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">Similarly in the case of a residue-free chamber, there is always a gap between the connecting cone and the warhead causing misalignment.<\/span> <span title=\"\">This game can be decreased (but not removed) by using several layers of paper around the warhead, it will always result in a settlement and an irregularity.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Depending on the state of the rubber ring of the cylinder head, there may be losses of gas that change the internal pressure and therefore the speed of the warhead.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">This will have an influence on the projectile&#8217;s tension and thus on the accuracy of the shot.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The firing residues present in the stripe of the barrel will have the same impact.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">3 The strength of the cartridge<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span title=\"\">The solidity of the Chassepot cartridge is very inadequate for a war cartridge.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">It is estimated that 20 percent of the ammunition was damaged during the 1870-1871 conflict, sometimes destroyed in the military bag during travel.<\/span> <span title=\"\">There are traces of stories of soldiers fleeing the enemy for lack of cartridges, for lack of supplies that do not come &#8230; even with the railroad.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">4 The ease of manufacture<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">By adopting the cartridge paper case, we would like to keep the soldier the ability to make his own cartridges.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">In the case of taking a convoy, an enemy camp, it is then possible for the combatants to use the stocks of powder and primers left by the opponent.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span title=\"\">Nevertheless ammunition becomes more complex, it is not so easy to have them manufactured by the soldiers in a war of advantage in movement.<\/span> <span title=\"\">We rely on the use of the railroad to carry supplies.<\/span> <span title=\"\">This is the beginning of &#8220;industrial operational support&#8221;.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">On the other hand, it is easy to set up manufacturing workshops with trained workers and simple tools.<\/span> <span title=\"\">It appears that poor ammunition was delivered by civilian workshops during the 1870-1871 conflict.<\/span> <span title=\"\">A worker makes 85 cartridges for every ten hours.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Following the modification of the military uses and the lengthening of the range of the weapons the consumption in ammunition explodes.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">This is probably one of the reasons for the lack of supply.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">5 The economy<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span title=\"\">In 1873, a military law programs 1,200,000 men under the flag.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">At a rate of 100 cartridges per staff per year, an annual requirement of 120,000,000 cartridges are required under penalty of insufficient instruction.<\/span> <span title=\"\">It is easy to imagine that each component needs to be optimized in order to reduce the cost as much as possible and thus reduce the bill.<\/span> <span title=\"\">In view of the annual need for cartridges, the smallest savings passed on each munition represents very quickly large sums.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The paper case cartridge remains more economical than the metal case cartridge.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span title=\"\">Can we say that 100 cartridges a year are enough to educate and maintain the knowledge of a shooter, a soldier?<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">We then see the interest of encouraging private initiatives such as the establishment of civilian firing ranges, hunting societies, to educate children shooting at school, to propose weapons close to regulatory weapons to civilians so<\/span> <span title=\"\">that they train throughout the year without impacting the resources of the state.<\/span> <span title=\"\">We find in the old catalogs of manufactures the traces of these initiatives.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Many of the above criteria are not met, however, the paper cartridge will be accepted.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<h2><strong><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">The Callebaut cartridge<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/h2>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">&#8220;The Chassepot rifle is recognized as excellent except the cartridge, which all European countries are seeking to improve.&#8221;<\/span> <span title=\"\">(speech of the President of the Republic June 8, 1872)<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">In a desire to equip the Chassepot rifle with a more adequate ammunition.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The house Callebaut (Paris) offers a cartridge with wooden body.<\/span> <span title=\"\">This new cartridge without a metal case is said to hunt hunted.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">This consumable case cartridge version provides a faster shot of 150 cartridges for only 101 cartridges fired with the prescribed ammunition.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">One miss on 1089 rounds fired.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">207 cartridges shot without incident related to the rubber sealing system against 85 in the regulatory rifle thanks to the use of a rubber membrane closing the tube of the cartridge and which under the pressure of the gas vein take a larger diameter<\/span> <span title=\"\">(decreasing the stresses on the rubber shutter).<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">When fired, the wooden tube 13.5 mm in diameter is forced into the cone of connection, which breaks it and the pieces of wood leaving the barrel cleans the latter.<\/span> <span title=\"\">No plots of wood stay in the room.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">The wooden body of the cartridge is stronger than that of the standard cartridge.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">According to the manufacturer, it can be half-crushed, the ammunition still works.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">If it still works &#8230; it must be difficult to chamber !!<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">200 cartridges can be manufactured in ten hours, or 2.35 times more than for the prescribed ammunition.<\/span> <span title=\"\">Time is not the only one to be saved, the missed ammunition is too.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span title=\"\">This cartridge does not seem to have been adopted by the armies.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">The following year, the Gras rifle will end the paper cartridge case, the era of the metal case has arrived.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">I did not find any representation of this ammunition.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<h2><strong>Conclusion<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">We can see through this series of articles the difference between the transcription of the book and the reality of war, finally &#8230; between theory and practice.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\">Pressed by German victories, including that of July 3, 1866 in Sadowa, France decided hastily to equip his army. She chose a modern weapon for the time: the 1866 Chassepot rifle. It takes the opportunity to create new factories. The choice made by France is audacious. Modern engineers have not clearly solved and therefore not or little commercialized this type of weapon. Indeed, the use of fuel cases is likely to face problems that are difficult to solve today. In particular the clogging of the chamber and the sealing. It is ambitious in 1865-1866 to want to replace a regulatory piston weapon with a weapon adding several technical advances with the hope of solving major problems (use of a mechanism to load by the cylinder head, reduction of the caliber, fouling of black powder, fouling of residues of burned paper, evolution of the doctrine of the use of long weapons, adoption of new ammunition, mass production of the new ammunition, use of an uncommon material then in armory: rubber, etc &#8230;) all made by a new factory.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">The St Etienne gun factory will supply the weapons ordered shortly before the war, but what about the training of soldiers, officers, health services, various supplies &#8230;<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span title=\"\">Germany took the lead in endowing its army with breech-loading rifles well before other nations (1841, 25 years before France).<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">This advance certainly had setbacks but by equipping decades before the others, they had time to stop at various technical events and train their soldiers, gunsmiths, officers to make them more fit to fight.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span title=\"\">Following the despatch of Ems and despite the warnings of Adolphe Thier, France declared war on Germany.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">The war lasted from July 19, 1870 to January 29, 1871, a little over six months.<\/span> <span title=\"\">The result of the lack of preparation will be the loss of Alsace-Lorraine.<\/span> <span title=\"\">Territory that will remain German until the end of the world premiere is 47 years.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Fundamental problems directly affecting Mr Chassepot&#8217;s patents would have been worthy of experience earlier, which would have allowed the various levels of civilian and military maintenance and supply to address certain pre-conflict defects.<\/span> <span title=\"\">Or, do not declare war on Germany to fix the anomalies.<\/span> <span title=\"\">Chassepot rifles will be transformed from 1874 for firing the metal cartridge.<\/span> <span title=\"\">It will bear the name of 1866\/74 Bold.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span title=\"\">In 1873, America, England, Belgium adopted metal cartridge weapons.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">France is resisting, the cause is perhaps the absence, the limitation of private industries that bring, in the hope of a major government contract, an innovation, a competition more abundant.<\/span> <span title=\"\">France preferred the opposite: the monopoly of national manufactures whose insufficiency, history demonstrated it during the war of 1870-1871 and many years later (to see article gunsmith designer concerning revolver 1892)<\/span> <span title=\"\">, can occur.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span title=\"\">The importance of regimental gunsmiths and private companies to change the world of weapons, quickly change endowment weapons is well established.<\/span> <span class=\"\" title=\"\">A nation must maintain knowledge and talents.<\/span> <span title=\"\">To date, the situation of the arms industry in France is such that the private industry dies, the manufacture of weapon of St Etienne is closed, the next assault rifle of the French army will be German<\/span> <span title=\"\">and American inspired.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Useful sources for writing this article:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text-wrap tlid-copy-target\">\n<p class=\"result-shield-container tlid-copy-target\"><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">You can download these three documents on the download page of the site:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Armament of Europe and the United States: Influence of the Rapid Shooting Rifle on Tactics and Training of the Soldier &#8211; 1870 &#8211; (bnf-Gallica);<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Small arms and the treatment of firearm wounds in the field &#8211; 1892 &#8211; (bnf-Gallica);<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"tlid-translation translation\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"\" title=\"\">Notice on the cartridges for weapons of war and in particular on the cartouche for rifle Chassepot &#8211; 1866 &#8211; (bnf-Gallica).<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Through the retranscription of an article punctuated by an ounce of optimism published in 1869, we saw in the first section devoted to the rifle Chassepot to outline the beginnings of the adoption of the new regulatory weapon. 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